Date: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 18:39:15 -0700
Reply-To: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
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From: David Kao <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: Labor, 28 hours, customer say, i have no money....
In-Reply-To: <CAEOIPKOOCKNBBDDDMBPCEDKAOAB.vw.doka@gmail.com>
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Jeff, you are probably right. The primary purpose of the law was for the
construction business that saw far too many disputes and received no payment
for a long time before the dispute settled. I thought it applies to area
beyond construction contract jobs. But I may be wrong. Every state has
different Mechanic's Lien law. California probably has specific laws governing
auto repair disputes. But honestly I have never run into any shop that asked
for a deposit for any repair job. Of course I never had jobs that were very
high cost which could be the reason. It would be reasonable to be asked for
prepaying for expensive parts. But as a customer I would not feel right to
be asked to prepay labor. I could always take my business elsewhere.
David
--- VW Doka <vw.doka@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> David,
>
> I think you're a little confused about the applicability of the mechanics
> lien in California. The mechanics lien is used by contractors.
>
> http://www.cslb.ca.gov/forms/MechanicsLiens.asp
>
>
> As I said earlier, in California, if the customer can show that the vehicle
> is their primary mode of transportation and will cause undo hardship if
> lost, they can take the vehicle without paying the bill (the sheriff is
> usually required). I know this for a fact as I had this ploy played on me
> once... once!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of David Kao
> Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 5:14 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Labor, 28 hours, customer say, i have no money....
>
>
> --- Jeff Ensing <Kjmmensing@AOL.COM> wrote:
>
> > In a message dated 8/8/2007 7:18:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> > dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM writes:
> >
> > I learned about the law of Mechanic's Lien. It is a state level
> > law that is for protecting the business side, not customer side.
> > Because of the law a customer really does not need to pay deposit
> > any more. If customers don't pay they lose their car or their house.
> > But on the other hand fraudulent business practices often end up
> > losing their licenses.
> >
> >
> > There is just one problem with "law of Mechanic's Lien"
> >
> > It's a three letter word for bend over and pay the attorney
>
> Jeff:
>
> Does your state have such a law? If yes you may want to learn
> about it. It is a law specifically in California to deal with
> people not paying the contractor or the mechanic after the job
> is completed. There are so many disputes on the daily basis.
> The law is required to deal with the problem quickly.
>
> You can bring the customer to court and win without a lawyer.
> The law is there and the judge will quickly reward you provided
> by the law. But of course if the work is not done as promised
> then it is a different matter.
>
> By the way, the law makes every consumer, especially me, to worry
> about the quality of contractors. There is no way I can refuse to pay
> regardless I am satisfied or not with the job. However, as a result
> my contractor for the roof work did not have to ask for a deposit
> because the protection the laws provided him.
>
> Believe me I think the law is wrong. It is for you not for me.
>
> David
>
>
>
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