Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2007 15:30:42 -0500
Reply-To: Anthony Kimmons <akimmons@GMAIL.COM>
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From: Anthony Kimmons <akimmons@GMAIL.COM>
Subject: Re: 87 still not starting, need fuel pump advice
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Ok, I suctioned the larger line coming from the tank and got fuel
without a problem.
So, I figured that I'd reconnect the fuel pump and suction from the
back of the van.
I put a small hand vacuum pump on the line that comes into the tee
(where you can check the pressure), but could get no gas out of there.
It was actually able to hold a vacume! Thinking that there must be
something clogging the fuel pump or the line? The filter is new.
Feeling like I'm closing in on it though finally...
On 7/21/07, David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> wrote:
> It's called priming the pump. Zoltan, you made an excellent point.
> Oil pump needs to have oil in it in order to pump. Same reason.
> THe fuel pump need to have gas in it initially in order to pump gas.
> I think you have nailed the problem for Anthonany.
>
> David
>
> --- Zoltan <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET> wrote:
>
> > You say, you have the pump working for that few seconds when you are turning
> > the key on.
> > The pump works.
> > And you cleaned and changed things.
> > But it was standing for a long time.
> >
> > It is possible, that you have some cavitation in your pump and need to pull
> > the fuel through first to make it pump with force. You can disconnect the
> > hose on the firewall, install one that is a couple of feet and suck on it to
> > make the gas come over the pump, then reconnect the original hose and see if
> > it starts now.
> > Zoltan
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Kao" <dtkao0205@YAHOO.COM>
> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2007 10:59 AM
> > Subject: Re: 87 still not starting, need fuel pump advice
> >
> >
> > > You said your pump is new. So it is not very likely to be bad.
> > > If you are not getting fuel at the injectors perhaps your pump is
> > > not receiving fuel to pump.
> > >
> > > You may want to think about things at the time when the problem first
> > > started.
> > >
> > > You said you put in a new seal kit for your gas tank and your pump
> > > was new and you crank the engine with no start. The question is did it
> > > start before you changed anything? What prompted you to make changes
> > > to the seal and the fuel pump?
> > >
> > > The ECU, ignition module, fuel pump relay and the pump are all realted.
> > > You may need to swap each of them with good ones, one at a time, to see
> > > which one is causing the problem.
> > >
> > > A You Pull kind of junkyard can be a place for treasure hunt for these
> > > things. I have two vanagons so I do my treasure hunt between two vanagons.
> > >
> > > David.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- Anthony Kimmons <akimmons@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Still having starting issues with me 87 GL.
> > >>
> > >> I was not getting power to my fuel pump and have replaced the relays,
> > >> ignition switch, and alternator because I noticed the regulator was
> > >> bad due to the old alternator wobbling. Just finished a job replacing
> > >> fuel tank seals and new fuel filter.
> > >>
> > >> Now I'm getting power to the fuel pump at least. Connected a test
> > >> light and it goes on when I turn the key, stays on briefly (a couple
> > >> of seconds) and then turns off. I understand this is normal. But,
> > >> there is no fuel getting to engine. Engine cranks fine, but does not
> > >> turn over.
> > >>
> > >> I bought the fuel pump new a few years back, but my van has been
> > >> sitting for quite awhile.
> > >> Wondering now if the pump has "frozen" up from crap or water that may
> > >> have been in my tank. Is it possible to test for this? Is there anyway
> > >> to clean out the fuel pump or make sure it turns properly?
> > >>
> > >> Man! I was really hoping that it would start right up today! Any other
> > >> suggestions?
> > >> THANKS!
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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