Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:52:09 -0700
Reply-To:     Zeitgeist <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Zeitgeist <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?
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Attacking me?  I didn't feel attacked.  Contempt?  If I offered contempt,
you'd know it.

I'm sharing info--no more, no less.  Like it, super.  Don't like it,
super-duper.

You're right, my anecdotal info holds almost zero weight, but I'm also
sharing with you the collective experiences of others in the Mercedes
community, where this sort of techno-sophistry is fairly commonplace.

I've chosen my personal pathway to hell, ya'll are free to choose your own.

On 6/30/07, Robert Fisher <refisher@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> Of course that gasoline isn't pressurized and run through the passenger
> compartment (there's a reason they call that thing a 'firewall'); and
> while
> an engine compartment may get hot, it should not have any 'sparky-sparky'
> in
> it... however we have all seen and read what can (and often does) happen
> with these vans when the pressurized fuel system gets compromised. In
> fact,
> dealing with that very issue is one of the most prevalent instances of
> 'risk
> aversion' on this list.
>
> All of which has nothing to do with the fact that people should be advised
> beforehand (or at least have ready access to the information) about the
> potential risks (both physical and legal) of any mod, be it brakes,
> engines
> or A/C. Some folks might not care for the potential to be flash-fried,
> others might feel it is important to comply with the law in their state or
> country, whether that law makes any sense to someone else or not.
>
> So yes, by all means, stay informed and make up your own mind. Nobody was
> attacking you; your sarcasm and contempt are not warranted.
>
> And btw, as in so many other things, your personal/anecdotal experience
> doesn't mean much.... you could've just been lucky so far. It occurs to me
> that those who have or will blow themselves to hell doing this (or any
> number or other things) probably aren't going to show up again to tell us
> about it.
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Zeitgeist" <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?
>
>
> > A'yup, that risk aversion should also extend to running highly
> pressurized
> > flammable liquids circulating throughout the hot sparky-sparky
> environment
> > of your engine compartment.  Last I checked, gasoline was ever so
> slightly
> > combustible, and could go boom at a moment's notice.  Did I mention that
> I
> > have 33F vent temps, with no conversions, and all for $10?  And, I've
> done
> > this same boom-boom thang on two other R12 vehicles with similar
> results?
> > By all means, stay informed and make up your own minds.
> >
> > YMMV
> >
> > On 6/30/07, rubatoguy@comcast.net <rubatoguy@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> Those considering propane/isobutane mixtures may want to consider this
> >> article
> >>
> >> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/1758061.html?page=3
> >>
> >> Do you research, decide your level of risk aversion, make your choice -
> >> but make it an informed choice.
> >>
> >>
> > Casey
> > __________________________________________
> > '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel
> > '94 100CSQ Avant
> > '90 90Q
> > '89 Bluestar
>



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Casey
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'87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel
'94 100CSQ Avant
'90 90Q
'89 Bluestar