Date:         Sat, 30 Jun 2007 22:54:21 -0700
Reply-To:     Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Subject:      Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?
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Of course that gasoline isn't pressurized and run through the passenger
compartment (there's a reason they call that thing a 'firewall'); and while
an engine compartment may get hot, it should not have any 'sparky-sparky' in
it... however we have all seen and read what can (and often does) happen
with these vans when the pressurized fuel system gets compromised. In fact,
dealing with that very issue is one of the most prevalent instances of 'risk
aversion' on this list.

All of which has nothing to do with the fact that people should be advised
beforehand (or at least have ready access to the information) about the
potential risks (both physical and legal) of any mod, be it brakes, engines
or A/C. Some folks might not care for the potential to be flash-fried,
others might feel it is important to comply with the law in their state or
country, whether that law makes any sense to someone else or not.

So yes, by all means, stay informed and make up your own mind. Nobody was
attacking you; your sarcasm and contempt are not warranted.

And btw, as in so many other things, your personal/anecdotal experience
doesn't mean much.... you could've just been lucky so far. It occurs to me
that those who have or will blow themselves to hell doing this (or any
number or other things) probably aren't going to show up again to tell us
about it.

Cya,
Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zeitgeist" <gruengeist@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: A/C resuscitation - where to start?


> A'yup, that risk aversion should also extend to running highly pressurized
> flammable liquids circulating throughout the hot sparky-sparky environment
> of your engine compartment.  Last I checked, gasoline was ever so slightly
> combustible, and could go boom at a moment's notice.  Did I mention that I
> have 33F vent temps, with no conversions, and all for $10?  And, I've done
> this same boom-boom thang on two other R12 vehicles with similar results?
> By all means, stay informed and make up your own minds.
>
> YMMV
>
> On 6/30/07, rubatoguy@comcast.net <rubatoguy@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> Those considering propane/isobutane mixtures may want to consider this
>> article
>>
>> http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/industry/1758061.html?page=3
>>
>> Do you research, decide your level of risk aversion, make your choice -
>> but make it an informed choice.
>>
>>
> Casey
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