Date:         Thu, 10 May 2007 19:18:45 -0400
Reply-To:     Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
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From:         Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@HOTMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: propane explosion
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You really can’t have an all in one sensor as the different gasses need to
be detected at different levels. The propane detector goes close to the
floor. Propane detectors will pick up any thing that can change
flammability including battery off gassing and some hair sprays. Co
detectors are normally installed at breathing or mid heights and smoke
detectors need to go on the ceiling. Battery operated smoke detectors are
the best choice their. Propane and CO meters need a little more power so a
12 volt unit supplied by the house or main battery is usually best.
Provide a shut off means for long storage periods if that is common. 12
volt detectors are available at camping and RV suppliers. Very good
investments indeed.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
Sent: Thursday, May 10, 2007 2:29 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: propane explosion

Smoke detector, CO detector, propane detector . . . who makes the
all-in-one Bad Gas detector* that runs on batteries and doesn't decide
to wake you up in the middle of the night, squalling for a new battery?

Pity the story couldn't described exactly what it was that leaked in the
stove. They seem to be pretty sturdily built. I reckon there may be
better chance that a burner was not turned all the way off.

*Needs to be relatively insensitive to the unique, pungent, and possibly
lethal miama of sulfur compounds, butyric acid, methane, and hydrogen
which emanate from my posterior and cause Mrs Squirrel to threaten
divorce.

Also see

Auerbach PS, Miller EY. High altitude flatus expulsion (HAFE) [letter].
West J Med 1981;134:173 -- (A tongue in cheek dissertation on the
subject - well worth reading.)

--

Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
KG6RCR

On 5/10/2007 10:45 AM Björn Ratjen wrote:

> Volks,
>
> A story in the local newspaper raised my attention today. A lady was
> lucky to escape a propane explosion in her Westie. It is a good reminder
> to check the propane lines for leaks and install an appropriate alarm. I
> do not know the lady.
>
>
http://www.canada.com/victoriatimescolonist/news/story.html?id=0a2247cd-e5
20-4736-9265-b5fd0751db73&k=69048
>
>
> Björn
>
>
> Björn Ratjen, Ph.D.
> Cobble Hill, B.C.
> phone/fax (250) 743-7575