Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 06:30:25 -0700
Reply-To: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Joseph Fortino <fortino1@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject: Re: In praise of aircooled vanagons
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WOW and oil dip stick that gives a oil temp reading.. * nice *
Joe
-----Original Message-----
>From: Bob Donalds <donalds1@VERIZON.NET>
>Sent: Apr 4, 2007 5:44 AM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: In praise of aircooled vanagons
>
>Its true that the air-cooled van has to tolerate poor quality fuel AND there
>are things you can do about it.
>The addition of an external oil cooler prevents the oil from hitting that
>magic temp of 225 F. Oil at 225 F
>has what could be considered a phase change. I have seen this while testing
>air-cooled engines with real time digital temp gauges. As the oil reaches
>225 F the head temps soar due to the fact that the oil stops accecpting heat
>from the heads at the same rate. Air-cooled engines acumulate heat over time
>depending on load and abient air temp. As I like to say the air-cooled
>engine has has a max running temp limited only by the melting point of
>aluminum.
> Gene berg often said that gauges are worthless he was right the event is
>over long before the gauge reacts can you say VDO.
>Gene Berg Ent sells a oil temp dip stick and guess what it makes the oil
>light flicker at 225 F
>
>Bob Donalds
>Boston Engine Exchange
>all rights reserved
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Robert Keezer" <warmerwagen@YAHOO.COM>
>To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 3:26 AM
>Subject: Re: In praise of aircooled vanagons
>
>
>> "I'm not sure of any particular problem specific
>> to
>> airheads except the overheat problem which is
>> operator-controlled."
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>> I think the other word for it is "denial".
>>
>> Heat is the main culprit with aircooleds but to
>> believe it's solely operator controlled is
>> misleading.
>>
>> Air-cooled engines in Busses and Vanagons are
>> usually short lived.
>>
>> When octane was lowered the air-cooled was
>> doomed. They are from an era that had higher
>> octane, leaded fuel, and when the average car was
>> owned only a few years.
>>
>> Simplicity? So were 8-track players.
>>
>> Puddlers? Waterboxers, glorified flat -four
>> engines. They last longer because they run
>> cooler.
>> Heat is the enemy of motor oil.
>>
>> Savor this moment of momentary air-cooled bliss.
>>
>> As I remember on a plane flight long ago, the
>> mayday was sent after the radial engine swallowed
>> a valve, billowing black smoke.
>> The pilot had spoken to the co-pilot minutes
>> before'Amazing how well it runs for not having
>> had an overhaul in 25 years".
>>
>> Capture the moment .
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>> --- Nathaniel Poole <myth.wright@GMAIL.COM>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I know the list is mostly populated by
>> > piddlers, and so not an even
>> > sample, but I have seen repetitive posts on
>> > similar issues with the
>> > puddle engines. I'm not sure of any particular
>> > problem specific to
>> > airheads except the overheat problem which is
>> > operator-controlled.
>> > Earlier ones really seemed to have a problem
>> > with the twin carb setup,
>> > but VW had a very good engine worked out by the
>> > late 70s - just to
>> > drop it under market forces. It's a shame
>> > really. After driving all
>> > those miles (a lot on the interstate), I don't
>> > see the horsepower
>> > problem as a problem at all. I would buy a new
>> > one tomorrow. It is
>> > such a simple engine, like a motorcycle but
>> > bigger. Of course it would
>> > never pass muster in the smog department.
>> >
>> > Nathaniel
>> >
>> > On 4/3/07, Benny boy <huotb@videotron.ca>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Aircooled van/bus are strong runner! if kept
>> > cool and clean, they are GREAT,
>> > > sometime better than the wasser.
>> > >
>> > > Cheers, Ben
>> > >
>> >
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