Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 04:46:44 +0000
Reply-To: dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
In-Reply-To: <CAEOIPKOOCKNBBDDDMBPCEACODAA.jeff@vanagonparts.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
So, Does anyone know of an ATF that is labeled for the TES-295 specification?
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Schwaia
Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 1:39 pm
Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> No need to get all "FTC" about this... the warranty actually states:
>
> Allison® will only cover repairs in which the transmission had
> been operated
> with TranSynd® or an equivalent fluid which meets the TES-295
> specification.
> Sorry... no free fluid for you.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> Of Mike S
> Sent: Friday, February 23, 2007 9:05 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
>
>
> At 11:01 AM 2/23/2007, Dennis Haynes wrote...
> >Talk about Castrol marketing, They sell a tranny
> >fluid called TransSynd. They have some how
> >partnered with Allison so that this is the only
> >fluid approved in their transmissions if you
> >want the warranty. Amsoil is the only company
> >challenging this and offering a fluid they claim
> >is equal and they will back it up in case of a
> >fluid related failure. It is almost the same
> >price so I stick with the TranSynd. I hate
> >having my arm twisted though.
>
> That's fine, if they provide free fluid during
> the warranty period. Otherwise, the Magnuson-Moss
> warranty act kicks in and they must get a waiver
> from the FTC. You can search the Federal Register
> at http://www.gpoaccess.gov/fr/search.html I did
> a quick search for 'allison AND "federal trade
> commission"' for the years 2000-2007 and got no
> hits. Looks like you get free fluid!
>
> "No warrantor of a consumer product may condition
> his written or implied warranty of such product
> on the consumer’s using, in connection with such
> product, any article or service (other than
> article or service provided without charge under
> the terms of the warranty) which is identified by
> brand, trade, or corporate name; except that the
> prohibition of this subsection may be waived by the Commission if—
> (1) the warrantor satisfies the Commission that
> the warranted product will function properly only
> if the article or service so identified is used
> in connection with the warranted product, and
> (2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public interest.
>
> The Commission shall identify in the Federal
> Register, and permit public comment on, all
> applications for waiver of the prohibition of
> this subsection, and shall publish in the Federal
> Register its disposition of any such application,
> including the reasons therefor." - 15CFR2302(c)
>
