Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2007 16:01:58 +0000
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From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
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Talk about Castrol marketing, They sell a tranny fluid called TransSynd. They have some how partnered with Allison so that this is the only fluid approved in their transmissions if you want the warranty. Amsoil is the only company challenging this and offering a fluid they claim is equal and they will back it up in case of a fluid related failure. It is almost the same price so I stick with the TranSynd. I hate having my arm twisted though.
Dennis.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike S
Date: Friday, February 23, 2007 7:05 am
Subject: Re: Oil is Killing our Cars?
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> At 02:33 AM 2/23/2007, mike . wrote...
> >I like Mobil 1 better, a true synthetic. Castrol is, I believe,
> >formulated
> >from a natural base, much cheaper to do, but costs the same.
>
> Yes, and no. The article is talking about Castrol GTX, which has
> alwaysbeen a petroleum based oil. You're thinking of Syntec,
> which used to be
> a Group IV (polyalpha olefin-PAO) basestock (same as original Mobil1).
>
> Several years ago, Castrol changed to a Group III (hydrocracked
> petroleum) basestock, without any notice, and without any
> decrease in
> price. They did it because it's much cheaper, so they make more
> profit.Mobil complained to an industry advertising arbitration
> board (not, as
> is frequently told, a court of law) that Castrol should not be
> able to
> call it a "synthetic." The industry arbitrators, marketeers all,
> saw an
> opportunity and took it. Now the public has no easy way of
> knowing what
> is truly a synthetic oil (i.e. started out as something which isn't
> oil), and the industry can make greater profit by selling cheaper
> basestocks as "synthetic."
>
> Group III oils are very, very good. But they're also much
> cheaper to
> produce than Group IV synthetics. At equivalent cost, I'd stick
> with a
> true synthetic. I simply won't buy Castrol anything anymore, due to
> their disingenuous marketing. Shell Rotella T Synthetic 5W-40 is about
> $15/gallon at Wally world. It's a diesel/gasoline rated Group
> III oil,
> at a reasonable price.
>
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