Date:         Sun, 28 Jan 2007 16:58:26 -0500
Reply-To:     Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
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From:         Jim Akiba <syncrolist@BOSTIG.COM>
Subject:      NVC: correction     was: RE: Guns and Cars and Such
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"What we assume, makes us look bad." - Boston Bob - Proper Flywheel
installation video - Jan '07


I know Brady really well, we met in Tokyo in 97.  Let me tell you this - (1)
He's not a moron, Fuc##ng or otherwise (2) Unfortunately, many of these guys
DO INDEED pull sidearms and much worse unprovoked. Some guys in our district
were protecting drugs for dealers and ran a hooker bar for *uniformed*
officers. One of those guys was threatening to kill the kids of other
officers involved if they didn't keep quiet... We get harassed on Sunday if
we're in the shop by the cop buddy of the guy across the street because he
hates our landlord. Luckily he just harasses from his cruiser because he's
so overweight he has difficulty getting in and out of the crown vic, which
has huge doors and isn't very low. My favorite call I ever made to the cops
was greeted with "District 18, disgruntled officer Pete speaking, what's
your issue", I said "What did you just say? Did you just say disgruntled
officer Pete? Why are you disgruntled man?" And he said "you got an issue or
what!?", which is funny cause I was wondering the exact same thing. It's
unfortunate that not all cops are like the ones you're talking about.  Most
importantly Brady isn't a liar, so you can ask him questions and he'll
provide you an honest answer. We haven't all shared the same experiences, so
you can only be making assumptions.

See there is vanagon related content in this reply,

Jim




-----Original Message-----
From: Oliver Gruber [mailto:osgruber@COMCAST.NET]
Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 1:13 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Guns and Cars and Such

I read this forum from time to time and sometimes I just laugh my ass off at
some of the social and political crap some of some of you spew. As a life
long gun owner (I received my first rifle on my first Christmas when I was
but 6 months old) I just have to wonder where some of you live and just
exactly what goes through your respective minds with some of the things that
are said.
Let me clue you in on a secret - If you have been pulled over 157 times (1)
you Are A Fuc##ng MORON!!!!! (2) If a police officer drew his sidearm - YOU
DID SOMETHING WRONG - NOT THE OFFICER!!!!! These guys do NOT draw on someone
unless provoked! I am calling you an outright liar..... You are full of CRAP
if you say a cop put a loaded gun to your head for just speeding....and if
he did what else did you do?????
My father was a true old school salesman. From the early fifties to the late
70's he drove almost 200,000 miles a year. He always carried a handgun (and
still does) and to my knowledge the only time he ever needed to unholster it
was in Toronto after he had long retired in 2001.
There is a reason that the worst crime rates are in large urban cities.
There are larger populations and almost without exception they also have the
most restrictive gun laws. It is illegal to own a handgun
(Or a long gun for that matter) in the District of Columba, yet they are
consistently in the top three in murder rates. Why? Because the only ones
who now have the guns are the ones who mean to do you harm.
And as someone who has in-laws that are Canadian nationals, Canadians are
without a doubt THE most Racist people I have ever met - without exception.
But at least they are consistent - they hate Everybody.

As a business owner that deals with a fair amount of cash, I carry a sidearm
always. And have never needed it to date. I have been driving for almost 40
years and can count the number of times I have been pulled over on two
hands. I think that some of you need to rethink what you do and how it may
effect others around you.