Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 17:05:48 -0400
Reply-To: dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET
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From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
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Do you have oversized tires? The first time I towed the Fun Bus behind a motorhome from NY to Coral Springs Florida, The FUN BUS traveled ~80 miles further then the RV. And that was with 215/70-14 tires on it. With 215/65-16, the speedo and odo are about 1% under.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike \"Rocket J Squirrel\" Elliott" <camping.elliott@GMAIL.COM>
Date: Monday, August 7, 2006 3:40 pm
Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
> On 8/7/2006 11:33 AM Dennis Haynes wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > The speedometers on most 1.9L vans is grossly optomistic, to the
> point of being silly. You think you are cruising at 70 but you may
> not even be doing 60.
> Boy, I'll say. I need to subtract 10 to 12% of the indicated value to
> determine the actual value (as determined by GPS and confirmed by
> usinga stopwatch and those handy [but rare out here] mileage
> markers on the
> highway placed there for odo checking).
> > The odometers are also optimistic by ~4% so you are not going as
> far as you think.
> >
> I lucked out: according to those aforementioned odometer check mileage
> markers on the highway, our 1.9l's odo is spot-on.
>
> Mike "Rocket J Squirrel" Elliott
> 71 Type 2: the Wonderbus
> 84 Westfalia: Mellow Yellow ("The Electrical Banana")
> 74 Utility Trailer. Ladybug Trailer, Inc., San Juan Capistrano
> KG6RCR
>
> > The gearing is the same for both engines. So it makes sense the
> 2.1L may use more fuel at a given cruising speed. The FI in the
> 2.1 also tries to run leaner which in some situations will reduce
> power and economy, (counter intuitive).
> >
> > I know I was very disapointed when I went from an 84 7 passenger
> to the Syncro Camper. 21-22 mpg to 17.
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
> > Date: Monday, August 7, 2006 2:04 pm
> > Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
> >
> >
> >> So would the difference be mainly attributable to the load from
> >> the water
> >> pump/coolant system, or do folks perhaps 'baby' the air-cooled a
> >> littlemore?
> >>
> >> Robert
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Mike Meuser" <mike@HISTORICALSCALEMODELS.COM>
> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:05 AM
> >> Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> My 83-1/2 westy still never gets less than 20mpg and it has
> 230K on
> >>> the original engine. My 87 westy got around 17 before I converted
> >>> it.
> >>>
> >>> Mike
> >>> On 6 Aug 2006 at 22:53, John Rodgers wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> I had an '85 GL with the 1.9L wbx for a number of years. I
> have now
> >>>> had for a number of years an 88 GL with 2.1L WBX. The '85 GL
> >>>>
> >> with the
> >>
> >>>> 1.9L definitely got better gas mileage than my 88 GL with the
> 2.1L.>>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>>
> >>>> John Rodgers
> >>>> 88 GL Driver
> >>>>
> >>>> im Felder wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> That's VERY good. I never heard that the 1.9 gets better mileage
> >>>>> than the 2.1. Any other extenuating circumsances?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Jim
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Chasteen, Jonathan M. MM3 (CVN69)
> >>>>>
> >> wrote:>> >
> >>
> >>>>>> Hello all
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Just got back from a day trip to Baltimore to meet fellow
> listee>>>>>> Sudhir. Very helpful, friendly guy. Anywho heres the
> details>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Vehicle :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 1985 2wd vanagon GL 1.9L
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> S&S header w/ glasspack muffler
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 27x8.5R14LT tires
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Trip :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Williamsburg, VA to Baltimore, MD and back
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Distance :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Approx 438 miles
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Fuel used :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> 19 Gallons
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's an average of 23.05 MPG
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Not bad
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Jonathan
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> Mike Meuser
> >>> 87 Westy GL / 91 Subaru EJ22
> >>> 83-1/2 Westy L
> >>> 89 Cabriolet
> >>>
> >
> >
>
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