Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:33:23 -0400
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From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@OPTONLINE.NET>
Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
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The "83-1/2" indicates it is the early generation Water Boxer. The 1.9L does appear to get better fuel economy than the 2.1L, Some is perception but there are some major differences.
Most 1.9 do not have power steering or AC. The speedometers on most 1.9L vans is grossly optomistic, to the point of being silly. You think you are cruising at 70 but you may not even be doing 60. Based on aerodynamics alone, 70 requires almost 30% more fuel than 55. The odometers are also optimistic by ~4% so you are not going as far as you think.
The gearing is the same for both engines. So it makes sense the 2.1L may use more fuel at a given cruising speed. The FI in the 2.1 also tries to run leaner which in some situations will reduce power and economy, (counter intuitive).
I know I was very disapointed when I went from an 84 7 passenger to the Syncro Camper. 21-22 mpg to 17.
Dennis
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Fisher <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
Date: Monday, August 7, 2006 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
> So would the difference be mainly attributable to the load from
> the water
> pump/coolant system, or do folks perhaps 'baby' the air-cooled a
> littlemore?
>
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Meuser" <mike@HISTORICALSCALEMODELS.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 12:05 AM
> Subject: Re: cruising speed and MPG
>
>
> > My 83-1/2 westy still never gets less than 20mpg and it has 230K on
> > the original engine. My 87 westy got around 17 before I converted
> > it.
> >
> > Mike
> > On 6 Aug 2006 at 22:53, John Rodgers wrote:
> >
> >> I had an '85 GL with the 1.9L wbx for a number of years. I have now
> >> had for a number of years an 88 GL with 2.1L WBX. The '85 GL
> with the
> >> 1.9L definitely got better gas mileage than my 88 GL with the 2.1L.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> John Rodgers
> >> 88 GL Driver
> >>
> >> im Felder wrote:
> >> > That's VERY good. I never heard that the 1.9 gets better mileage
> >> > than the 2.1. Any other extenuating circumsances?
> >> >
> >> > Jim
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Aug 6, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Chasteen, Jonathan M. MM3 (CVN69)
> wrote:>> >
> >> >> Hello all
> >> >>
> >> >> Just got back from a day trip to Baltimore to meet fellow listee
> >> >> Sudhir. Very helpful, friendly guy. Anywho heres the details
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Vehicle :
> >> >>
> >> >> 1985 2wd vanagon GL 1.9L
> >> >>
> >> >> S&S header w/ glasspack muffler
> >> >>
> >> >> 27x8.5R14LT tires
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Trip :
> >> >>
> >> >> Williamsburg, VA to Baltimore, MD and back
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Distance :
> >> >>
> >> >> Approx 438 miles
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Fuel used :
> >> >>
> >> >> 19 Gallons
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> That's an average of 23.05 MPG
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Not bad
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Jonathan
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > Mike Meuser
> > 87 Westy GL / 91 Subaru EJ22
> > 83-1/2 Westy L
> > 89 Cabriolet
>
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