Date:         Thu, 29 Sep 2005 11:56:06 -0700
Reply-To:     Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
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From:         Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Subject:      Re: yet another engine choice - VW "twincharger"
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ACTUALLY...

I'm not sure what you're "actually" is about.  You've just further defined a
turbine.  A turbine uses successive rows of radial blades fastened to a
central shaft in order to spin the shaft.  On a turbocharger, the other end
of the spinning shaft is used to increase the atmospheric pressure in the
engine to produce more horsepower.

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
Of Dennis Haynes
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 11:38 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: yet another engine choice - VW "twincharger"


Actually, A turbocharger, besides usually being exhaust driven, uses vaned
wheels to move a large volume of air, usually working at very high speeds.
The centrifugal action of the wheel creates the flow or pressure similar to
the way a centrifugal pump works. Superchargers are usually rotary screw or
lobe pumps, belt driven. The major significance is that they are positive
displacement pumps. Even the VW G-Ladder is a PD pump. They need to be belt
driven since as a PD pump, if it is not turning, air will not flow through
it.

Dennis

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeffrey Schwaia <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
Date: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:57 pm
Subject: Re: yet another engine choice - VW "twincharger"

> Re: yet another engine choice - VW "twincharger"Right and wrong.  A
> turbocharger is a supercharger, however, it gets it name from the
> fact that
> it uses a turbine to spin the compressor.  The turbine is spun via
> exhaustgases.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On
> Behalf Of
> Andrew Grebneff
>  Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 12:22 AM
>  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>  Subject: Re: yet another engine choice - VW "twincharger"
>
>
>    Turbos can be driven by exhaust (almost all), belt (Paxton) or
> electricmotor (as VW was paying Mitsubishi to research in the 90s).
>
>
>  Turbos in their early days (WW2) were called turbosuperchargers.
> Unfortunately, with the contraction to turbocharger, it's "outta
> sight,outta mind"... take super out and soon people forget that it
> IS a
> supercharger.
>