Date:         Wed, 27 Jul 2005 14:51:50 -0700
Reply-To:     Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
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From:         Aristotle Sagan <killer.jupiter@GMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: No start..... rebuilt engine.... over my head...
Comments: To: Tom Young <tomyoung1@comcast.net>
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I'm betting on the 180 distributor/wires.

Anybody want in on this action?

tim in san jose


On 7/27/05, Tom Young <tomyoung1@comcast.net> wrote:
> From: "Benny boy" <huotb@VIDEOTRON.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2005 12:37 PM
> Subject: No start..... rebuilt engine.... over my head...
> 
> > I need suggestions... i have a 84 here that i just resealed... (heads)
> > it's been 8 hours that i am trying to start that van without success..
> >
> > Every components where checked...(Fuel-air-fire), injection wiring and all
> > FI components, AFM, that stupid 84 hall-sender and idle system control...
> > EVERYTHING... mechanical timing and so on... am over my head with this
> > van... of course, it came here ont's own so i created the problem... the
> > only thing that was not change is the slow moving starter....??? still,
> it's
> > turning enought...
> >
> > You should also know that the van started yesterday for about 15 sec.  it
> > died after and never started again.... i have fuel, air and fire (basic
> rule)...
> >
> > Every single wire to the ECU was checked, every possible FI components
> were
> > checked per the book....
> >
> > Any suggestions????????? maybe am not seing something obvious....
> 
> It's *not* "Fuel-air-fire", it's "sufficient compression, acceptable
> fuel/air ratio, and strong enough spark at the proper time."  If you're
> really sure that you have "fuel-air-fire" then assuming compression's OK
> your fuel/air ratio is strongly out of whack or the spark's being delivered
> at the wrong time.
> 
> Are you sure you didn't flood the engine with that 15 second start?  If so,
> all your subsequent attempts at start will only worsen the problem.  (I did
> this once and the air distribution box ended up with a cup or so of gas
> sitting in it.)  Pull the plugs and see if they're wet; if they are, let
> things sit (plugs out) for a day or so and try again later.
> 
> Did you pull the distributor and maybe put it in 180 degrees off, or attach
> the plug wires in the wrong places?
> 
> You need to determine what part of "sufficient compression, acceptable
> fuel/air ratio, and strong enough spark at the proper time" isn't working
> for you.
> 
> ---------------------------------------------------
> Tom Young
> Lafayette, CA 94549
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 


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