Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 19:29:00 -0600
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject: Re: OEM vs Aftermarket -- WAS: where is the best buy for drums
and rotors?
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I've seen a lot of those scratched out or marked over labels and It's always
a mystery to me what I'm actually getting.
Years ago I purchased mufflers and tail pipes etc from Ford Motor Corp.
The mufflers and pipes were always in good condition but Ford obscured the
Ford name with a ball peen hammer on the mufflers and replaced the gummed
paper tag on the pipes with a grease pencil number that did not say Ford.
The same goes for Monroe shocks that came to me as factory seconds but were
always just overstock and couldn't be identified as perfect, seconds or
otherwise.
Then we get into Clutches: Borg Warner produced a rebuilt clutch line for
many years and always packed NEW product in the boxes labeled Rebuilt. They
didn't have a core bank in the 60s and since they held all the tooling and
owned the patents for LONG, Borg and Beck and Lype disk, covers it was
cheaper to supply a new clutch than to manage a core bank. (Reference, I was
Employed by Borg Warner 1962 / 1969).
In addition Essex, Wells, Prestolite produced almost the entire ignition /
switch / bushings line except the point sets that they sold under the borg
warner name. Airtex produced the Fuel Pumps and McQuay Norris produced the
Water pumps.
The Carb Kits were originally Pacco (recent purchase 1962).
The ignition line was originally SureHit (Recent Purchase 1961).
Stan Wilder
Engine Ceramics
214-352-4931
www.engineceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Schwaia" <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 6:44 PM
Subject: Re: OEM vs Aftermarket -- WAS: where is the best buy for drums and
rotors?
> I don't think so. Recently, I received a shipment of water hoses for a
VW.
> The hoses were made in Israel and had the VW-Audi mark on them, except
> someone had taken a black marker and obscured the VW-Audi mark. I've also
> bought these same hoses at the dealer and they were identical: made in
> Israel, but with the mark of course.
>
> There's no doubt in my mind that these hoses were made by the same
> manufacturer, were identical in quality, and came off the same assembly
line
> as the OE VW dealer hoses. This is just one example of aftermarket and
> dealer parts being exactly the same.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jeff
> www.vanagonparts.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> Of Jim Felder
> Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 3:45 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: OEM vs Aftermarket -- WAS: where is the best buy for drums
> and rotors?
>
>
> Possibly a rebuild using VW castings, and ground off knowing that VW
> would come after anyone who used their logo? It would be much cheaper
> to fill in the lettering on the original molds once and get rid of the
> lettering forever than to have employees grind off thousands of VW and
> AUDI logos.
>
> Jim
>
> On Feb 17, 2005, at 5:31 PM, Dennis Haynes wrote:
>
> > May have also been a reject by OEM standards but good enough for after
> > market sales?
> >
> > Dennis
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> > Of Jeffrey Schwaia
> > Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 4:03 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: OEM vs Aftermarket -- WAS: where is the best buy for drums and
> > rotors?
> >
> > Funny thing about some of the aftermarket parts: if you look closely,
> > you
> > see where the VW symbol has been ground off or covered up somehow.
> > Basically, it is a OEM part that has been defaced for non-OEM sales.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Jeff
> > www.vanagonparts.com
> >
>
>
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