Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 18:14:07 -0800
Reply-To: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
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From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject: Re: aux fuel tanks
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I have been thinking of putting the filler neck on driver side for 2WDs, but
the LPG tanks would be in the way of having the aux fuel tank there. There
might be a possibility of running the filler hose from one side to the
other... really have to get in there and take a look on a 2WD, which I don't
own.
There is no way I would cut a hole in the floor and fill the tank, what if
you spilled fuel? A) It would stink, like the veggie oil in trunk of my WVO
Jetta now, B) Fire Hazard C) Fume control D) Won't pass a safety inspection,
probably due to reason B and C.
The tanks we are building are 4mm thick on the bottom and 3mm thick on the
remaining sides. On my heavily off-roaded Syncro camper has a black plastic
grey-water tank that sits lower to the ground than the fuel tanks and it is
still there good as new. I wouldn't be too worried about small debris
coming up and hitting it, the alloy is soft enough that it will bend and not
rip if you did impact something minor to medium.
I thought of the idea of a fuel tank in the spare tire well, but the German
TuV says no way to that one. If you are in a front end impact, this area is
designed to crumple. Put a fuel tank there and you will have fuel all over
an already bad situation.
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3
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-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
Of Daniel Stevens
Sent: February 9, 2005 7:57 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: aux fuel tanks
David, how about on the driver's side in the same location ?
though this wouldn't work with a propane tank there in a westy..
On a 2wd westy, it might have to fuel fill thru the floor, with an
access screwplate. this would be fine for veggie/diesel but not for
gasoline.. though I'm not a fan of aluminum gasoline fuel tanks anyways,
I like the deformation of steel better in a situation that would
compromise the tank.. (rut,rock,stump,curb,bike for example)
on a similar note, over this summer i'll be working on making a 2nd
fuel tank that will hand in place of the clamshell tire carrier, I
should be able to get 10gals, or approx 40L. since my syncro has 30"
tires and the spare doesn't fit there anyways. keep us informed, and
i'll do the same.
Dan Stevens
VWCCNY Syracuse NY
1980 ASI 1.6TD camper
1987 syncro (soon to be 1.8T)
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From: David Marshall <mailinglist@FASTFORWARD.CA>
Subject: Need a suggestion for 2WD Auxiliary fuel tank filler neck
location
I now have my prototype 70L auxiliary fuel tank ready for my TriStar
Syncro.
This tank is made from aluminium, has a great "trap" so you want starve
of
fuel going down a long hill when the tank is almost empty, has a fuel
lever
sender so I can see how much fuel there is in there and best of all a
coolant operated heat exchanger so I can warm the fuel up for running
veggie
oil in my TDI. I have a 2WD filler neck assembly that I will use to
fill
the tank. The tank mounts under the sliding door between the inner
and
outer "frame". This all works very well for a Syncro as the original
fuel
tank is filled at the rear of the van and there is a blank spot where
there
2WD filler neck is supposed to be. Installing a 2WD filler next is a
very
logical thing to do here. But, what would be the best and neatest way
of
filling this tank on a 2WD? There is no real good place to mount a
filler
neck assembly... or is there?
David Marshall
Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
Quesnel BC Canada V2J 6Z3