Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 19:57:49 -0500
Reply-To: Karl Hartmut Filc <kfilc@SYMPATICO.CA>
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From: Karl Hartmut Filc <kfilc@SYMPATICO.CA>
Subject: Re: rare lapel pin on ebay
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I'm German but now I have the Canadian citize ship. We are not allowed to
have dual citize ship. I line in Canada/Ontario for 20 years ans have a 0
Vanagon which almost crippled me financial.
Hartmut
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 :10:21 AM
Subject: Re: rare lapel pin on ebay
> This is pure speculation on my part, but it occurs to me that the ban may
> be
> for contemporary Nazi paraphernalia, not an outright ban- It would be
> difficult to present and acknowledge an accurate accounting of history
> without including the various symbols of the time in question. Imagine
> trying to convey a full understanding the American Revolutionary or Civil
> wars without including the flags of the times. In other words, perhaps the
> ban is on things intended to promote, honor or glorify the Nazis, but
> factual historical representations are allowed.
>
> Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to something I was thinking about
> the
> other day- there don't seem to be many, if any, Germans on this list- not
> to
> mention South Africans, etc. You'd think there would be as many or more
> Vanagons in some of these other places than there are left here... Are
> Americans the only ones that have developed a fetish for these things?
>
> 'Speaking' of Vgons in other countries... Is it my early-morning
> pre-coffee
> brain, or do I recall correctly that Vanagons are still in production
> somewhere (S.A.?)? Legal hassles notwithstanding, it seems like it would
> be
> cheaper and easier in the long run to try to import a new van than to try
> (and try, and try) to resurrect one that's 20 years old and just getting
> older (thinking 'green wires' here). Or is it just not possible..?
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LOREN BUSCH" <labusch@VERIZON.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:26 PM
> Subject: Re: rare lapel pin on ebay
>
>
>>I find the design of the pin interesting, I've never seen one before
>> (not a real VW buff, just a Westy driver). What I find the most
>> interesting is that reproductions are being sold at the VW museum. The
>> last I had heard it was against the law to manufacture or sell any item
>> with the Swastika on it in Germany. (If I'm wrong on that, someone
>> correct me). But I wonder if they get around that because the symbol is
>> only partially reproduced? And that leads to a second question in my
>> mind: Would the original actually have been made with only part of the
>> symbol showing? If anyone has good, accurate history on this it would
>> be interesting.
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