Date:         Fri, 22 Oct 2004 17:22:51 -0700
Reply-To:     mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         mark drillock <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
Subject:      Re: Air cooled diesel Vanagons
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I think you guys misunderstood the question. I think he wants to put an
"aircooled diesel engine" into an early loaf. Only 1975 and older are
smog exempt due to age in Calif, i.e. pre smog.  The only Vanagons
exempt are those registered as diesels already. He asked if the 80s
diesel motors are type 4 based and of course they are not. The cooling
system parts from a Vanagon would be of little use in a loaf. By the
way, 80s VW diesels have no computer. It only take 1 wire for the engine
system to run, +12 with the key on to the fuel shutoff valve on the
injection pump.

Mark

Mark .Stan Wilder wrote:

>I pulled all the WBX external components off an 85 Vanagon to make a Subaru
>Conversion into an air cooled 82 Vanagon.
>There are a lot of parts to get so you need to make a serious agreement with
>whoever is supplying your donor van. Just consider every part that holds
>water has to come off. Every heater control and the heater assembly behind
>the dash and under the rear seat.
>You may find yourself going back many times to get all of the necessary
>parts to complete your conversion.
>You must take special care removing the rigid plastic hot water lines and
>any plastic part. There is also the matter of the wire loom that contains
>the wiring for the Speedometer / Tachometer pod, the water temp gauge and
>the temperature control for your heater.
>It's not impossible job but it will be time consuming.
>
>Stan Wilder
>High Performance Ceramic Coatings
>www.engineceramics.com
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>jimt
>Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 6:36 PM
>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>Subject: Re: Air cooled diesel Vanagons
>
>On 10/22/04 3:25 PM, "Larry Edson" <sonofed@KARMANNGHIA.ORG> wrote:
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>>Last night I was complaining to a friend about the new California smog law
>>when I had an idea about maybe putting a diesel Vanagon engine into one of
>>my pre smog VWs. But not knowing anything about them I don't know if it
>>would even be possible. Are the diesel engines from the early '80s based
>>on a Type 4 gas engine? Are there other things besides the fuel injection
>>that would need to be retrofitted into another car to make this work?
>>
>>Larry
>>sonofed@karmannghia.org
>>www.ghiatwins.homestead.com
>>O o\ /o O
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>I have seen it done by a few.  If your talking into the air cooled you will
>need to put a radiator and appropriate hoses in.  the lower mounts for the
>radiator are actually there on almost all vanagons.  You just have to cut
>the lower grill hole and then mount the grill and then get the upper rad
>mounts out of a junk yard.
>
>Get the entire works from a diesel donor.  The computer, fuel pump, motor
>mounts, transmission and mounts.  Getting it all as one unit makes it a lot
>easier.
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