Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:44:07 -0700
Reply-To: Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Mike Miller <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
Subject: Re: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content)
In-Reply-To: <004e01c48bfc$950ea180$06caa8c0@karmannghia.comn>
Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Unfortunately the amount they can bring in this year and for the foreseeable
future is zero. Need low sulphur fuel in place and some other stuff too I
think.
Mike
On 8/26/04 11:09 PM, "Jim Thompson" <jim@KARMANNGHIA.COM> wrote:
> California is tough, but it is my understanding that California only allows
> VW to bring in so many *new* TDIs of certain models to sell per model year
> due to it's emissions restrictions. This based on what the local dealer
> (Ventura) parts manager has said to me, but they could be wrong.
>
> Jim Thompson
> 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt"
> oldvolkshome@earthlink.net
> jim@karmannghia.com
> http://www.oldvolkshome.com
> ***********************
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff at Vanagonparts" <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:51 PM
> Subject: Re: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content)
>
>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> "Here in New York we can't get the TDI due to emissions."
>>
>> Wow, I though Cali was tough. What if you buy a used TDI out of state?
>> What if someone who owns a TDI moves to NY?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Jeff
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
>> Of Dennis Haynes
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:33 PM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content)
>>
>>
>> Yes, new cars cost money. You are looking at a premium for the New
>> Beetle and for the TDI. The Golf or Jetta will cost less. Personally, I
>> would go a bit more and get the German built Passat. Here in New York we
>> can't get the TDI due to emissions. If you are not partial to a VW,
>> consider a Hyundai Elantra. We can get them here for ~$14k loaded and
>> they do 32 mpg. You can buy a lot of gas for $8k. They also have the 10
>> year 100k warranty.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>> Of Jeremy Speer
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:02 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content)
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> So my wife and i took a 2004 TDI beetle for a test drive yesterday.
>> There's a big move looming for us that will almost certainly involve
>> commuting, so i'm in the market for a good high fuel milage car, hence
>> the TDI test drive. Yes, i've driven a first-gen Prius and i'm
>> interested, but there's a full year wait list and the level of
>> technology in that car is daunting... it's not something you want to
>> drive to Alaska just yet.
>>
>> The last time i drove a VW diesel it was in college in '82... a
>> friend's Rabbit L diesel. Great car, ran and ran and ran on one tank,
>> plus it had this nifty James Bond smokescreen effect if you needed to
>> confuse a bad guy during a getaway. Well, the new turbo diesels are a
>> whole new animal. It does have turbo lag (maybe it's a diesel thing),
>> but wind it up a bit and it's got scoot. The car is quite the amalgam:
>> engine's made in Poland, transmission (manual 5) is from Argentina,
>> balance is assembled in Mexico from parts made all over the place. In
>> contrast the Passat is nearly 100% German.
>>
>> 2004 Beetle GLS TDI (non convertible, no leather), out-the-door price:
>> $22,413. I'm sorry, but that seems like an awful lot of money. Granted
>> it's less than half what the Touaregs are going for (50 to 54,000), but
>> i'm still choking. I'm not getting any dealer installed options... so
>> is there wiggle room on that price? Am i now supposed to haggle?
>>
>> I paid $10,000 for my Westy... and i've probably put $3500 into it
>> since.... but i can LIVE in my Westy.
>>
>> Do i simply need to "get over it, new cars cost money."
>>
>> Used TDI beetles are very hard to find, suggesting they last and people
>> keep them. Jetta wagon TDI's are scarce here in Minnesota.
>>
>> Anybody care to share some wisdom?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -jspeer
>> '89 Westy GL, "Mystery Machine"
>> '00 Victory Sport Cruiser <-- for sale!
>
>
| 
