Date:         Fri, 28 May 2004 08:17:36 -0500
Reply-To:     Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Sender:       Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From:         Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Subject:      Re: no VW sports cars?
Comments: To: Michael Rule <mikerule@UFL.EDU>
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I think the KramannGhia convertible pretty well suits the sports car
description.

Stan Wilder

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Rule" <mikerule@UFL.EDU>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 6:31 AM
Subject: no VW sports cars?


> VW never made a sports car?   Scirocco (I had 2), Corrado spring
> to mind immediately, not to mention GTI's... of course, we aren't
> talking Testarossa-level units- but fun, nimble and quick fits my
> easy-going sportscar definition!
>
>
> On Fri May 28 06:25:28 EDT 2004, Andrew Grebneff
> <andrew.grebneff@STONEBOW.OTAGO.AC.NZ> wrote:
>
> >> Dont you people care about gas mileage?  The new subaru's are
> >> only getting
> >> in the low to mid 20's, barley better than the small SUVs?  I
> >> have a 92
> >> legacy wagon AWD, gets over 30 mpg, gutless yet, but cheap to
> >> drive and
> >> bulletproof.  I for one am very disappointed that subaru has
> >> gone from
> >> producing fuel efficent cars for the masses to satisfying the
> >> needs of the
> >> few with the deep pockets
> >
> > That's trhe exact opposite of everything I have heard. The older
> > EJ
> > engines were never noted for economy, and the newer ones are
> > considerably better.
> >
> >>  VW is selling overpriced made in mexico yuppy
> >> cars, and overpriced SUVs and sportcars
> >
> > VW doesn't and never has made a sportscar.
> >
> >> for those with more money than
> >> brains.  The practical car market is going to the koreans (kia's
> >> and
> >> hyndai's).
> >
> > Koreans for some reason seem to like large cars with small
> > engines.
> >
> >>  Toyota and Honda saw the same
> >> things, and created the Acura and Lexus brands to accomodate the
> >> market
> > trend.
> >
> > Acura is a name Honda chose to sell certain of its cars in the
> > North
> > American market. The rest of the world gets them with Honda
> > badges,
> > as it should be.
> >
> >> It's a bit ironic actually, do you remember the BRAT, the four
> >> seater
> >> "pickup"?  I wanted one as a teen-ager.  Subaru has always
> >> exploited the
> >> loopholes...
> >
> > Ah, the Leone pickup, also sold as Brumby in Australia. Still see
> > the
> > odd one around.
> > --
> > Andrew Grebneff
> > Dunedin
> > New Zealand
> > <andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
> > Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --------- <:3~ ---------
>
> Michael Rule
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>
> The trick is to listen to what the experiments tell you -
> and to not be fooled by the myths of authorities --
> Constantine Spyropoulos (1928-1984)