Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2002 09:03:07 -0500
Reply-To: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Sender: Vanagon Mailing List <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
From: Stan Wilder <wilden1@JUNO.COM>
Subject: Re: some notes from counterman mag
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Years back when I worked for Borg Warner Ignition Division we had annual
obsolescence returns from each distributors stock.
Since this was in the 60s we got back stuff that was for 30s/40s/50s
automobiles, tractors, busses, tucks and even small engine.
After this return was completed there were always several trailer loads
of pure ignition parts, all small stuff like points, condensers etc. Can
you imagine how much ignition that is?
Point being that this return was all new boxed ignition but shelf worn or
slow movers.
Mexican and other parts distributors bought that stuff by the pound and
real cheap, about $0.05 a pound.
In the same obsolesce return each division had their own; Clutches,
Gears, Transmissions, Water Pumps, Fuel Pumps, Battery Cables, Carb Kits
etc.
I wasn't there when the stuff left the factory in Rockford Illinois,
Dixon Illinois or Franklin Park Illinois but there were about 25 trailer
loads that went out of the country each year.
These scrap out deals weren't offered to US Distributors or even salvage
yards; Borg Warner didn't want this stuff circling back into the
obsolesce program the next year.
These obsolete parts kept a lot of old cars running all over the world.
Stan Wilder
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 08:15:43 -0400 Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
writes:
> If you think cars are expensive here, just think about this: A
> friend
> of mine who is a missionary to Australia told me that over there
> any
> car brought into the country is subject to 100% tax (yes I said
> 100%).
> They say that when you buy a car you are buying one for yourself
> and
> one for the government. This keeps some pretty old cars on the
> road
> over there. He told me that the first van he bought over there was
> such a piece of junk that he would have normally sent it to the
> scrap
> yard here. He bought it for a little over $5000 (US) and it was
> considered a good deal. He said that you would be amazed at some
> of
> the really old cars that are still on the road, yet kept in good
> running condition. It is just too expensive of an investment to
> buy
> new. Any Australian list members, please comment.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> http://www.vanagain.com
> Phone: 856-327-4936
> Fax: 856-327-2242
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: jimt <westydriver@TACTICAL-BUS.INFO>
> Date: Sunday, October 20, 2002 8:54 pm
> Subject: some notes from counterman mag
>
> > look at these figures keepin in mind three things
> > 1. sixties era buses
> > 2. seventies era buses
> > 3, vanagon series
> > and how many miles some complain they never get out of engines
> > jimt
> >
> > 1960 avg vehicle survived 92kmiles before scrapping
> > 1970 - 105k
> > 1980 - 132k
> > 1990 - 191k
> >
> > 1970 15 percent of vehicles 10 yrs or older
> > today close to 40 percent are 10 years or older
> >
> > 1980s 20 percent of 5 to 7 year old vehicles scrapped
> > today only 10 percent of 12 to 13 year old vehicles are scrapped
> >
> > dealers service the majority of vehicles to age 5
> >
> > ten years ago a thousand dollar bill for a ten year old car sent
> > it to
> > the scrapper because it had reached its lifespan anyway.
> > today that car is probably fixed and expected to last another 5
> years
> >
>
>
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