Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 14:00:51 -0800
Reply-To: B Logan <blogan@ADNC.COM>
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From: B Logan <blogan@ADNC.COM>
Organization: El Dorado Institute
Subject: Re: [vanagon] Re: TIICO vs. CA
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I've got a Tiico engine sitting in a crate here in California. This lack
of a difinitve answer prompted me to call Peter at Tiico.
Peter says that he is actively pursuing getting an "exectutive order"
from the ARB, as well as working through the BAR process.
He feels confident that the issue will be resolved by the end of the
year. He stated that he is in this "for the long haul" and is determined
to resolve the California issue.
Even so, some California conversions are getting certified under the
current system.
Peter did verify the "gross polluter" story described below.
I left the conversation satisfied that I'll soon be incompliance and
able to pass smog here in California.
Aristotle Sagan wrote:
>
> Sorry Ken, your leg was pulled.
> All vehicles go through a visual inspection before they hook up the sensors.
> They check for specific emmissions control items such as EGR valves, type of
> fuel system, number of cylinders, etc. If you mucked with it, it fails. They
> won't even do the test.
> Some of these people have really wierd test setups though. One guy had this
> huge butterfly shaped inductance sensor that couldn't pick out just the one
> ignition wire that it was suppose to. We wound up putting it over the
> battery.! It worked. ???
>
> I thinks tiico needs to do their homework like Kennedy did with the Subaru
> conversion kits to be fair to their California customers. If I were gonna do
> a conversion... Subie power it would be just for that reason. Or find a
> holed diesel westy and do the I4 that way.
>
> Do I think the system is right or fair? Nope, but we live with it and our
> air beats the heck out of NYC, Wash DC and most other East Coast Cities.
> That's a far cry from what it was like in the mid seventies when I stationed
> out here.
>
> tim obrien (breathing relatively clean air) in San Jose
>
> >I talked to Peter about how this problem with smog in California happened
> >since he had some vans that passed smog in that state. He said that a
> >Vanagon with a waterboxer in it had been flagged by an earlier inspection
> >as
> >a "gross polluter". When the customer went back to the inspection station
> >with the much cleaner running Tiico, this set off all kinds of alarms at
> >the
> >smog center. Why did this van go from being a heavy smoker to a clean
> >burner? They looked under the lid and saw the evil non-stock engine
> >configuration and didn't pass it. I mean who cares if the engine in there
> >now is cleaner burning than the waterboxer ever was? The only thing that
> >matters is that all of the proper hoops were jumped through and that the
> >proper palms are greased. Give me a break!!!
> >
> >Thanks,
> >Ken Wilford
> >John 3:16
> >www.vanagain.com
> >Phone: (856)-765-1583
> >Fax: (856)-327-2242
>
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Barry Logan blogan@chipotle.org
